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onice 2022-08-12 17:02:09 +08:00 1
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jujusama 2022-08-12 17:29:58 +08:00
多邻国?土区开个车 36 - 40/人 /年
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Hanli007 2022-08-12 18:02:41 +08:00 via Android
背单词+英语环境
就是见效慢,要有耐心 |
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charlesliu 2022-08-12 18:24:35 +08:00 15
In my opinion,
i think the key way is more watching, more listening and more usage. Any opportunities which can be replaced by using english instead of Chinese should never be wasted, for example: 1. reading original foreign library document instead of translation edition 2. write english commit message 3. use Quora instead of Zhihu 4. answer questions in stackoverflow.com proactive Grammar, vocabulary are unworth for special learning, but it's okay to query them at some time depending on your demands. never afraid to use incorrect english, after all, English is just one way to express your thoughts and get understanding of others, and it’s very hard to reach the native level of english people in domestic, so get free to use english. In short, try to make learning routine and integrate it into every aspect of life, instead of studying it exclusively I use google doc to write down this text, google doc help me to correct simple grammar errors. Hope these can give you a favor ^_^. |
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ynyounuo 2022-08-12 18:29:59 +08:00 6
@charlesliu
…… 你这段展现出来的英语水平不如直接写中文用 Deepl 翻译然后用 Grammarly 或者 QuillBot 改改语法强 |
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DeWjjj 2022-08-12 18:32:36 +08:00
也就是 用的词不一样而已。
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LiangRT 2022-08-12 18:33:19 +08:00 via Android
多看 YouTube ,就挑自己感兴趣的内容就行
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ynyounuo 2022-08-12 18:45:07 +08:00
@DeWjjj
然而我试图把他的意思转化成中文再用在线翻译明显是更通顺且更符合语言习惯的 多使用是没错,少怕用错也没错,只是忽略语法和词汇的重要性并不一定是正确的,尤其是对大龄 ESL 来说,反而其实更需要这个 |
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libook 2022-08-12 18:48:11 +08:00
逼着自己每天看一片英文文档或资讯,坚持下去,会越来越顺畅。
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aulayli 2022-08-12 20:27:40 +08:00 via Android
直接学新概念,一二三四册,学前三册就行了。
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dfctname 2022-08-12 21:11:31 +08:00 via iPhone
语法用张道真英语语法,英语这点东西一个星期够了
严格“从零”开始的话,多背背四级单词,然后直接看 bbc ,逐渐增加难度看路透社,南华早报,自己整理一份词汇表 最多三个月搞定 |
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charlesliu 2022-08-12 21:42:51 +08:00 via iPhone 1
@ynyounuo 我觉得在国内使用英语,一方面机会少,另外也缺少好的反馈和纠正方式,用你说的方式自然是好的,不过比较花时间,每个人的自身情况、学习目的都有差异,对我来说肯定是懒得关心这些,不过对别人来说,确实还是要具体情况具体分析
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lululau 2022-08-12 21:43:48 +08:00 via iPhone
背单词吧,没有捷径,听说读写能力都建立在词汇量的基础上
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gefranks 2022-08-12 22:08:19 +08:00 2
First and last, vocabulary.
The words and phase you can use will determine the level of your English, usually the minimum level, and you must always pay attention to your vocabulary building. Reading articles, listening to audio, watching video clips on YouTube etc., all service one and the only purpose at the very beginning: to expand your English vocabulary and get familiar with those words. All other shortcuts, advanced learning skills all have one hidden prerequisite that is you have already mastered enough words and phrases. If there are too many words and phrases you cannot understand when you are reading an article or watching a video, and you have to look them up in a dictionary, it will be cumbersome, and frustrating. Language learning is always a spiral, it is hard and there is no effortless way. The more words you know, the more confidence you will have, and during the process, your English skill will be more proficient. Do not overlook the effects of writing. Try to draft an article with the words you already knew and then try to polish this article with unfamiliar words with the same meaning, fell the differences of these words, your skill will be taken to a whole new level. |
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Jooooooooo 2022-08-12 22:19:42 +08:00 1
你需要兴趣驱动, 我一开始是看 twitch 上的游戏直播.
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neptuno 2022-08-12 22:20:57 +08:00 via iPhone
多邻国上面的英语,有点过于简单了,就多看看美剧吧,不开字幕,或者开英文字幕,进步会很大
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james22 2022-08-13 06:53:33 +08:00 via iPhone
看你学习英语的目的了,如果是为了看懂,那么多看文章,然后用谷歌翻译就行,如果是想和外国人交流,油管,视频号上大量的英语教学博主。
另外,记住,任何语言都是拿来表达你的想法的,这是前提,尝试用英语表达你的想法,这是快速提高词汇量和发音的最好技巧。 |
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weijar 2022-08-13 07:23:38 +08:00
楼上说的看美剧可以试试这个,可以单句重复及很多设置:
https://www.babelabc.com/ |
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ynyounuo 2022-08-13 12:17:18 +08:00
@signalyc
「多使用是没错,少怕用错也没错」 我的观点里也并没有否认这个是对的啊 至于修改,#4 比如第一句的单复数以及选词问题,比如第二句开头就有的 any + plural 以及头重脚轻的从句句式,比如列举时的谓语并列错误,比如很明显的错误或并不符合语言习惯的搭配问题「 are unworth 」,「 get free to do 」,「 give you a favor 」 就是你很明显能从他的遣词造句里看出 chinglish 的影子,我的观点是「语法和单词对于尤其是大龄的 ESL 来说是尤为重要的」 类比而言你可以看到 #18 的句型和表达就相对来说要好太多 另外你可以看 https://www.v2ex.com/t/852751#r_11660168 我是唯一一个给了 #4 正确答案的人,我对他并无恶意,只是正常讨论英语学习方式而已 |
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7042X05uTYUd9ULf 2022-08-13 22:07:17 +08:00
@ynyounuo 能不能用英语复述一下你的解释?
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signalyc 2022-08-14 14:46:13 +08:00
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closedevice 2022-08-14 16:00:09 +08:00
@onice 最初从啥材料开始听的?
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onice 2022-08-15 09:17:31 +08:00
@closedevice black cat earlyreads
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liouliuliu OP 收到,谢谢各位的指导意见和帮助,目前在看 B 站的新概念入门
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zhangpengpeng 2022-09-27 17:40:21 +08:00
背单词呀,高中词汇--四级词汇---六级词汇---托福 /雅思词汇,没啥说的,背单词,单词撸熟了,自然水到渠成~
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drunk99 2023-01-28 11:17:49 +08:00
感觉最重要的还是坚持几年,其他都是技巧
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nigga 2023-02-05 13:37:47 +08:00
@dfctname 下班学的话 三个月最多能正常看懂大白话美剧,但是想要流畅交流还要苦练,因为起码需要一年才能做到语法没有大问题的流利生活对话
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